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Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:55 pm
by speedgraflex
I have a 1/72 BF 109K4 of 12./JG27 (Blue 16 + I) unbuilt from Fine Molds and my research that I will reference here—and if I see anything that is pertinent I will add here.

I will follow along with you. You already addressed the fuse shape issue. I think overall Hasegawa’s fuse is quite good with the exception of its canopy flatness—you already have a plan to redo this, I think—or is it a detail worth the fix itself?
The roll bar behind the pilot which attaches to the canopy mechanism looks a little too beefy to me, but that is definitely being picayune on my part. To me visually the diameter is a little over half the height of the canopy frame, as it sits in a recess to serve as the canopy opening-closing mechanism.
Here is a drawing that shows the mechanism and attachment points as well:
The rest of that cockpit looks incredible! I agree with you about painting the resin to have an overall consistent starting point. I did this on Black 13 because the seat was blue plastic and the resin was dirty gray so the contrast needed to be eliminated before the color coats went down. I just hit that seat with primer to give it a better balance with the other elements.
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:14 pm
by Medicman71

Oh look. A resin pit that actually fits. Go figure.
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:03 pm
by Floki
More great info Bruce thanks for sharing.
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:23 pm
by speedgraflex
I am excited to see a K-4 here in 1/32!!
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:24 am
by KSaarni
speedgraflex wrote:I am excited to see a K-4 here in 1/32!!
- Kari
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:31 am
by KennyX
Gee wiz. The harness is just kinda bolted on there, isn’t it

clearly these fighters are from a time long before we Nerf’d everything!
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:57 am
by jkim
Thanks guys! The prelim work for the resin is always worth doing nice and slow. So that's why I started on it first.
Thomas_M wrote:John, sorry for having given you a wrong name! I am this done after a long day at work, and I am over 50!
Man, really, I wished I could give you a hug, or a beer, whatever you prefer, for this great explanation! That is what I so much love about our hobby, and the people who come together to share some tricks!
These days I am trying to get the chrome off from parts of a 1931 Cadillac by Jo-Han. Slowly, but it works. But be assured, I did spend the reamining brain cell to store the information and inspiration you gave here!
Not at all Thomas! It happens all the time due to my screen name looking a lot like Jim. I'm appreciate your comments and wish you luck on the chrome removal. Using household cleaning solutions?
speedgraflex wrote:I have a 1/72 BF 109K4 of 12./JG27 (Blue 16 + I) unbuilt from Fine Molds and my research that I will reference here—and if I see anything that is pertinent I will add here.

I will follow along with you. You already addressed the fuse shape issue. I think overall Hasegawa’s fuse is quite good with the exception of its canopy flatness—you already have a plan to redo this, I think—or is it a detail worth the fix itself?
The roll bar behind the pilot which attaches to the canopy mechanism looks a little too beefy to me, but that is definitely being picayune on my part. To me visually the diameter is a little over half the height of the canopy frame, as it sits in a recess to serve as the canopy opening-closing mechanism.
Here is a drawing that shows the mechanism and attachment points as well:
The rest of that cockpit looks incredible! I agree with you about painting the resin to have an overall consistent starting point. I did this on Black 13 because the seat was blue plastic and the resin was dirty gray so the contrast needed to be eliminated before the color coats went down. I just hit that seat with primer to give it a better balance with the other elements.
Thanks so much for the input Bruce! Blue 16 is an interesting bird and I think I have some information on it that I can share with you when the time comes. The fuselage issue can be handled a couple of ways. My ideal route is to use the RB Productions brass-framed canopy, which should have the correct profile on top. The instructions for the canopy mention the erroneous flatness of the Hasegawa fuselage and include a cross-section to help you correct it. The canopy is also meant to be movable using simple pin/hole joints but I'm skeptical on how well this will work, especially with the wire restraint system that is shown in your photos. I don't mind the bar part being a little overscale and I'm not planning on shaving it down significantly at this point.
That photo is GREAT... VERY helpful,but tell me, do you know if that is a K-4? The shape of the hatch cover behind the pilot is the exact same shape that the kit provides. However, the photos of K-4's that I've seen show a different shaped hatch. The proximity of the loop antenna and the aerial mast on top of the canopy indicates that it might not be a K-4?
Medicman71 wrote:
Oh look. A resin pit that actually fits. Go figure.
This is always a cause for CELEBRATION! I love when resin parts play nice. The only real challenge was getting the casting block off the wide floor piece. These shallow but wide blocks are always a pain. My saw couldn't get all the way across in one direction so I had to make four separate cuts and work toward the middle... took a long time and cramped up my fingers pretty bad.
KennyX wrote:
Gee wiz. The harness is just kinda bolted on there, isn’t it

clearly these fighters are from a time long before we Nerf’d everything!
And looking at this photo again, I can see that the bar in my photo was place upside down. It will be corrected when I install it permanently!
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:42 am
by speedgraflex
You’re right, John. Is that the E-Series canopy? I will have to check out where that image came from, and if I find out I will let you know. Thank you! I’m excited to see the Radu canopy! I think if anyone can make the canopy hinge open and close it is you, though. Super!
Overall canopy developments:
K-4 production line:
I also have what I believe are K-4 cockpit photos:

Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:45 pm
by jkim
Thanks Bruce! That's a neat production line photo! But I don't think those are K's. Can't be a K because of the middle opening canopies. Not E-series or prior because of the spinner. So either F's or G's. Absence of circular fuel hatch under the cockpit points to a G.
And also... I'm not sure those are K-4 cockpits. The starboard side of the K-4 pit was dominated by a larger circuit breaker panel. You can see it on the resin sidewall and the photo below.
I believe the K-4 came with a bomb control panel hanging from the center bottom (#51).
But those photos are still helpful. The throttle lever is missing from my resin side panel so your photos will help me replace it.
Re: 1/32 Hasegawa Bf109K-4 Weisse 8
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:32 pm
by speedgraflex
Apologies, John! You are correct, and that was a great assessment of the canopy type on your part. That is greatly appreciated, as well as the sidewall photo with the O2 system! Wow, that looks like it was a photo for the manual. What great details you found!