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Re: Airfix Curtiss P-40B Warhawk

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:38 am
by BlackSheep214
I have a perplexing question. The P-40 Warhawk kit gives me two choices to display the cowl flaps - open and closed. Can someone explain the differences and the benefit/use in open and closed positions? I'm currently on Step 36 in this build.


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On an unrelated question which involves the P-47 Thunderbolt - the side turbo charger vents.

I did a Tamiya Thunderbolt kit and I chose to assemble it in open position. What are the benefits when are they opened or closed?
I know there is no right or wrong decision how to display them. I'm just curious on the meaning between open and closed positions.

Re: Airfix Curtiss P-40B Warhawk

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:06 pm
by keavdog
I always thought the flaps would be open on the tarmac and closed in full performance flight.

Re: Airfix Curtiss P-40B Warhawk

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:41 pm
by Stikpusher
Flaps are opened for take off and landing. Their purpose is to increase lift. They can drop while parked as they hydraulics bleed down, if the controls are not locked. Some aircraft do open their flaps for dive bombing as means to slow and improve the pilots aim… and some aircraft have combat maneuvering flaps to tighten their turn radius while dogfighting. But I don’t think that was a feature of the P-47.

Re: Airfix Curtiss P-40B Warhawk

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:58 pm
by jeaton01
Carlos, the question is about cowl and intercooler flaps. Open on the ground for cowl flaps, in trail or partly open in climb, after that depends on cylinder head temps, closed on descent and approach, open after landing. Intercooler ducts are usually operated automatically but probably closed on the ground, open at high power settings.

Re: Airfix Curtiss P-40B Warhawk

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:26 am
by jkim
Nice quick work on the Warhawk. Not familiar with the P-40 but have lots of references now for the P-47. Most photos of the P-47 on the ground show those intercooler doors in the open position.

Re: Airfix Curtiss P-40B Warhawk

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:08 pm
by Brandons_Iron
jeaton01 wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:58 pm Carlos, the question is about cowl and intercooler flaps. Open on the ground for cowl flaps, in trail or partly open in climb, after that depends on cylinder head temps, closed on descent and approach, open after landing. Intercooler ducts are usually operated automatically but probably closed on the ground, open at high power settings.
This is exactly how I understood these to work as well. But, Stik raises a curious point on using them as a brake of sorts. I had never heard that before. Certainly makes sense and these pilots pulled out all the stops to win each engagement.

Re: Airfix Curtiss P-40B Warhawk

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:53 pm
by Stikpusher
jeaton01 wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:58 pm Carlos, the question is about cowl and intercooler flaps. Open on the ground for cowl flaps, in trail or partly open in climb, after that depends on cylinder head temps, closed on descent and approach, open after landing. Intercooler ducts are usually operated automatically but probably closed on the ground, open at high power settings.
Oops… I missed that part… :whistle: :headslap:

Re: Airfix Curtiss P-40B Warhawk

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:41 pm
by Medicman71
Man where was this kit when I did that crap Academy kit. :headbang:

Re: Airfix Curtiss P-40B Warhawk

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:34 pm
by BlackSheep214
Hobby Lobby.... :whistle:

Re: Airfix Curtiss P-40B Warhawk

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:42 pm
by BlackSheep214
It's a good thing I didn't paint this bird Gunze/Mr. Color 73 Olive Drab FS34087. Waaay too dark :headbang:

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I tested 3 different Model Master Olive Drabs:

Faded Olive Drab
Olive Drab FS34087
Olive Drab ANA 613

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I'm leaning towards using Faded Olive Drab - perfect for a bird that's been sitting in the tarmac under the Hawaiian sun at Pearl Harbor.

Sorry for the poor lighting. My magnifying lamp bulb blew out a couple le weeks back. The color swatches are still wet when I took the photo. I'll make a final determination once it's completely dried.